The day before Thanksgiving in 2009 I was invited to assist with the Nutty Putty Cave rescue of John Edward Jones. I ended up being the last person to see him alive, though at the time I arrived he was mostly unconscious. Since that time I have received numerous questions from reporters and curious individuals. Recently there has been an uptick in those requests as a result of some viral videos that have been posted. This is my attempt to provide information and help answer the questions that I am qualified to answer.
The day after the rescue efforts failed I wrote up a detailed account from my perspective of the rescue while it was fresh in my mind. Keep in mind that this is only one perspective from someone who arrived at the scene toward the end of the rescue efforts.
For a more well-rounded perspective I would encourage you to read Lindsay Whitehurst’s two-part Salt Lake Tribune article.
I will provide some commentary below my report with the footnote number indicated in report in parenthesis.
WARNING: This report contains descriptions of John Jone’s condition, passing, and post-mortem condition that could be disturbing to some readers. Out of respect for John and his family, I have tried to keep descriptions as general possible while addressing the challenges we were up against.
Nutty Putty Rescue Report
Written for SAR on November 25, 2009
I received the first call at 9:00 or 10:00 AM from Spencer Christian and Rodney Mulder that there was a rescue underway at Nutty Putty. They asked me if I could assist, but after asking a few questions about what was going on it seemed there were already enough people on site to carry out the rescue. I told Spencer and Rodney that if the rescue went on for a while and people started getting exhausted, and they absolutely needed me, that I would come.
About 5 hours later Spencer called me up and asked me to respond, saying that people were getting tired and they really needed small cavers. So I left work at about 4:00 PM, ran home to grab my caving gear and then headed out to Nutty Putty. I arrived at the site at about 6:00 PM and was put on the next group to go in the cave at about 6:30 PM.
When I arrived to the main passage at the opening of the Birth Canal people were working on the 4 to 1 haul system they had installed. I assisted for about 5 minutes, until it was decided that the system didn’t seem to be working (1) and the people by John Jones (the victim) needed a break. So the cavers that were working with John headed out.
On the way out I spoke with Andy Armstrong. I asked him how John was doing and he said that he was quickly going downhill, that he was in and out of consciousness and had started talking about seeing angels and demons around him.
As soon as they were out, we decided that I would head in first to assess the situation and see if I had any ideas for removing him, and then Debbie would work with John, since she had already spent some time with him getting to know him and she thought he would feel more comfortable with her.
So I went in first. In the back of the passage, right before you arrive at where John now is, there is an extremely tight crawl perhaps 18 inches wide and about 8 to 10 inches tall that takes a sharp 90 to 120 degree turn that you have to enter feet first. You have to maneuver yourself very carefully and you cannot see where your feet are standing until you pass the restriction. As I wormed my way in I felt my feet touch something soft which ended up being John’s feet. I felt them move and immediately lifted my feet and worked my way horizontally into the crack.
John’s feet were about 6 feet past the constriction and I was able to shift myself to the side of him and down the 4 foot wide fissure. After stabilizing myself by jamming my body into a narrower section of the crack I began speaking to John asking him how he was and introducing myself. There was no response. I shifted my position a little and tapped him on the leg. I could hear him breathing a deep gurgling breath, as though his lungs were filling with fluid. Then his feet shifted as though he were trying to maneuver his legs out of the crack he was jammed in. The kicking looked fairly frantic and after a second he stopped and it looked as though he had drifted into unconsciousness. (2) I continued tapping him on the legs and hip to see if I could get a response, but there was no response.
From there I spent a few minutes studying the passage, the positioning of John, and the rig that was set up, to see how we could get him out from here. It looked very bleak. I wondered if it was even possible to get him beyond this point. We could continue trying the rig, but it looked like he could only be lifted another foot or two in his current position because of where the webbing was anchored around his knees. After a foot or two his feet would hit the ceiling. And then once he reached the ceiling, there was no way to tilt him to a horizontal position. He would have to do it himself, but he was now unconscious. And even if we could get him into a horizontal position, he would then have to maneuver the most difficult sections of the passage he was trapped in. If he were conscious and had his full strength there was a minute chance he could possibly do it. But even if that was the case it looked grim. It was even difficult for me, weighing 125 pounds, to get myself out. At the bend where the restriction was I had to creatively contort my body to slip through. So to get a 210 pound, unconscious person out seemed pretty much impossible. The other option I saw was to use a jack hammer to widen the crack he was and remove a couple of knobs and then widen the tight spot, and then pull him straight out. He would be cut up very badly and probably end up with several broken bones, but if nothing else would work, that seemed like the best option.
Between me climbing out and Debbie taking my place there was a request to take the radio down to John so that his family could say some words to him. I think it was his father, mother, and wife who spoke to him, telling him that they loved him and were praying for him and that his father had given him a blessing. His wife mentioned a feeling of peace, that everything would be OK. She talked to him about 5 to 10 minutes before I told her that we needed to get back to working at getting him out.
At that point I crawled out to let Debbie squeeze past and take a look and assess the situation, but when she got to the tight hole, both legs cramped up and she was unable to make it down. At that point I decided to try using the jack hammer. So we waited for it to arrive and then I carried it down to where John was located. The tool was much heavier than I anticipated and to hold it up while wedging my body in the crack took everything I had. Even then, I couldn’t get a good angle on the rock because of the confined space and limitations in my own mobility and positioning. I only got three tries at a small lip just below Johns foot, but because of my angle the hammer just kept sinking into the sand at the side of the rock lip. I tried shifting my position, but it seemed like everywhere else I moved I couldn’t get a handle on the jack hammer because of it’s length. I only had about 2.5 feet of space between me and the rock that needed drilled and the jack hammer was probably 3 to 4 feet long. And then trying to hold it in such an awkward position wore me out pretty quick.
At that point I requested something smaller, but there didn’t seem to be anything available, and even if there had been I don’t know if a small hammer drill would have done much against the solid limestone walls. So we returned to the Birth Canal to have a quick meeting to decide what to do.
At that point it sounded like the drills were having issues or something like that, and the only option we had for drilling was to use the compressed air hammer. It took probably an hour or so to get hose down so we could use it. While we waited, we decided that perhaps the best bet was to try widening the hole from the top down, working our way towards John instead of away from him. Once the drill arrived Debbie, Max, and I spent about an hour and a half chipping at the passage a couple of feet above the tight spot – about 7 to 9 feet away from John. Areas where the rock was softer came apart fairly easy, but the harder formations took an incredible amount of effort. The main problem was that because space was so limited it was difficult to hit the rock at the right angle, so instead of chipping off the knob you would end up cutting a hole straight into the floor.
After an hour and a half we had only knocked off about a 18” x 4” section of rock on the ceiling and on the ground. And that was at the wider section of the passage. From that point on the cave was even tighter so that if you were laying in the passage and weighed 125 pounds you only had about 3 to 6 inches of space above you. Not very ideal for holding a jack hammer or even being able to choose the most effective angle. To continue the process, or even if we switched to micro-blasters, my estimate was anywhere from 3 to 7 days to get back to where John was. So once again we regrouped to decide what the next plan of action was.
By now it was close to midnight and we were asked to check vitals on John. They sent in a smaller paramedic to see if he could get back to John. In the event he couldn’t he showed me how to use the stethoscope and thermometer and where to check for a pulse. It was 11:30 PM when we left the group by the birth canal and ventured down the passage. It took about 15 minutes to get to John. I went first to check, just in case the paramedic couldn’t fit. I first tried the stethoscope and was only able to get it about 3 inches up and to the right of his naval. I didn’t hear a distinct heart beat, only some ruffling, fluttering sounds that were probably a result of me shaking as I tried to steady myself in an awkward location. I then jammed my hand between the rock and pressed as far up his torso I could go to feel for breathing. I didn’t think I felt anything, but again it was difficult to tell as I was shaking from trying to steady myself. His chest, where it was pressed up against the rock, felt warmer than the rest of his body and was sweaty, but every where else his body temperature was close to the temperature of the rock on the cave walls. From there I removed his shoe and attempted to check his temperature. The thermometer read nothing, which the paramedic said was because the temperature was below the range. As I took his shoes off and moved his feet I noticed that his feet and legs were significantly stiffer than they had been earlier and it was difficult to his leg more than a few inches.
I reported my findings to the paramedic above and then crawled out so that he could see if he could squeeze in. He was able to get dow to the point where he could feel his feet and confirm he had passed away. John Edward Jones was pronounced dead at 11:52, I believe it was.
At that point we decided to return topside for a debrief to discuss what our next plan of action would be. As everyone headed out, the paramedic and I went back in to take pictures of the passage and John’s position.
With John now deceased the effort required to remove his body would be exponentially more challenging. His stiffening body wouldn’t be able to make the bend through the tight spot above his feet, without significant alterations to the passage, which could take days or weeks with a hammer drill, perhaps slightly faster with micro-blasters. Any swelling would make it next to impossible to get him out of the crack he was wedged in until the swelling had reduced. There was no way to connect him to a rope other than by his feet. After a few days, we would need a hazmat suit and masks to work with the body, which would severely overheat any rescuers trying to get him out. With pants and a short sleeve shirt a person is usually dripping with sweat in about 10 to 15 minutes and can work for about 30 to an hour before needing a break. With a hazmat suit and mask you could probably work for 5-10 minutes before needing a break, not to mention the limit to your mobility. The body recovery idea looks very grim. (3)
Photos from the Rescue
NOTES
- The 4 to 1 haul didn’t work because there were so many twists and turns in the cave between where there was room for a group to stand and haul and John’s position that the friction, even with pulleys in place was enough to render the haul system ineffective.
- This was the moment he passed away.
- Ultimately it was decided it would be too risky to rescuers to attempt to remove the body, and to this day Nutty Putty Cave is the final resting place of John Jones.
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I really appreciate everyone’s kind and encouraging words in the comments below, as well as your questions. Unfortunately, I no longer have time to respond to questions and comments. I will continue to approve the comments you post as long as they are family friendly, but just know that I only log in to approve comments every few weeks.
Thanks again for your kind words!










Pretty impossible, but John needed to have been hoisted up from his hips. That way his legs could have been free to back up without hitting the ceiling
Good question. I’m not sure. I know it would have taken several hours from the time he got stuck until SAR had a rescue plan to begin executing. I don’t know what time his group entered the cave and what time he got stuck. I know he was pronounced dead prior to midnight.
It’s difficult to describe. The survey sketch that is included in this article is the best I can do.
The second half of your arrows are correct. The first part is not. He would have gone down the pit/fissure and then back up. Your first arrows are in an upper passage that isn’t connected to the lower section of Ed’s Push. It’s hard to depict in 2-D a 3-D passage.
I’m not sure on either of those questions. I think most of the other rescuers haven’t been to vocal about what happened. Most of us have just sort of moved on and really don’t think of it that often.
Your diagram is accurate. I’ve got too much on my plate right now to do a video.
That photo looks like Ryan Shurtz placing a bolt in the entrance to the passage where John was stuck. He is probably about 15-20 feet away from John’s feet in that picture. Thanks for sharing that.
1. I can’t speak to what happened before I arrived.
2. Unfortunately my schedule is pretty full right now and I don’t really have time to do that.
3. Not sure I understand what they are saying.
4. Yep. Same place. Not sure what lies beyond where he was stuck.
5. I’m not aware of any of that.
6. Not sure.
7. The paramedic told me that most people don’t survive more than 12 hours upside down.
8. Not sure.
9. Not sure.
10. I don’t think so.
11. Everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes those mistakes are fatal.
12. I don’t really use Facebook anymore.
In the photo of Ryan Shurtz that I sent as a link, do you happen to know if the picture was taken from the entrance of Ed’s push or was it near the 70 degree slope that John passed through?
Brandon – Thank you and bless you for your effort, and for taking the time to answer questions in this forum. The event seems to be somewhat traumatic for the general public even just as secondary observers, and your direct addressing of questions is not just worthy of respect but is also comforting. I hope it is for you too.
It is in the entrance to Ed’s Push. Probably 20 feet from where John was stuck.
This story is so difficult. We try to wrap our human minds around the experience, and there feels like there should be more to dissect, more to know, more to glean. On the subject of the event, there really isn’t. The most devastating things are often the most simple. What’s remarkable about John’s story, and your story, is the man itself. He was and in many ways still is a remarkable person. I’m so glad you were there with him, but also so sorry. Thank you for discussing this, and for compassionate bravery. I’ll never forget John – a man I never knew, but who taught me much.
1) What must have happened to John’s corpse by now? It’s been like more than a decade since this incident and I never knew about this until I was randomly checking on some videos on Facebook. So, would there be just the skeleton bones remains?
2) Also, was it possible to take any photos of any views of John through camera in any of the photos that were taken? Or was it difficult?
3) Please provide links if any final images were taken of John through camera through any attempted or exhausted angles.
1. I don’t know. The cave is very humid.
2. I believe I did using SARs camera but I do not have those photos. I don’t think it would be appropriate to share those out of respect for John and his family.
3. Everything I have is on the article.
Hi from Australia
I’ve just one question. At any point before John went over the ledge and downwards into his final resting place, could he have essentially reversed backwards. Did he always have that option until he went down that final area in the cave?
Hi Brandon,
Came here to say you a Hi, This Tragic Case made me very sad. Salute to all the rescuers who gave their full effort but couldn’t save John.
Just wanted to know how you’re doing and how’s your brother Kory who saved Brock Clarke in 2004. How you both are doing and what work Kory does nowaUdays pls let me know it would be interesting to listen. Also, why was Kory not part in the John’s rescue mission ?
I saw his photo somewhere on the internet when he is smiling inside that cave. Here is that Image Link – https://i.imgur.com/BI9ZYfk.jpeg
Brandon. You are a very kind and patient man. Not only to have put your own life at risk for a stranger, but then to relive it as people guess at things they can’t understand. I am amazed by the tightness of these caves. The only thing more amazing is that people actually go into and out of them successfully. Thank you for your clear explanation of these event. Good thought to you and your family. Please stay safe in your adventures.
😢This I know happened long ago but it saddens me finding out about this tragedy from another spoken accident that came across my FB feed. So young not yet began to live. God Bless this Angel., God Bless his family.🙏🏽
Hi Brandon, first of all, I just want to say thank you for sharing this and for your volunteer efforts.
I have a question about the paramedic. Was the paramedic experienced with cave exploration at all? How was their experience crawling through the cave? Did they panic? Were they simply chosen because they were the smallest medical professional? And you guided them through the tunnel to such a grim task. So tragic.
Such a tragedy, thank you to you and all the brave people who tried to rescue this poor man, in the world of madness it’s good to see that there are still good people willing to put themselves in danger for others, others that they don’t even know, God bless you sir.
Hi Brandon,
Thank you so much for this write up and for taking the time to answer questions. I had two things I was interested in:
1) There has been a lot of discussion of inconsistencies in the record of what happened during the rescue, I wonder how much you think that is a product of the rescue taking place in such a small space where only a maximum of one or two people could be close Jones at any given time and there were hundreds of people on site with their only way of knowing what was occurring was word of mouth. A cave rescue in a situation like this is unlike a burning building that can be seen by all, rather the information flow would seem to me at least to be highly open to misapprehension of error filtering through. I wonder what your thoughts are on that?
2) You mentioned the recent virality of the case, not to mention contemporary press coverage and the movie. Did you have any sense during or immediately after the rescue just what a big deal it would be and how many imaginations it would capture even all these years later?
Thanks!
Luke
Hi Brandon,
I am still confused about something. In the photos of the paramedic’s feet, he is wearing brown/black shoes. You make it very clear in a couple of the photos that they are the paramedic’s shoes from your vantage point. Unless you are wearing the same color of shoes, the bottom photo shows your hand, the paramedic’s feet and then another pair of feet sticking out of the crevice. Whose feet are sticking out of the crevice if not the paramedic’s?
Yes. Once he went past the tight squeeze and down the vertical incline head-first he hit a point where return would have been extremely difficult for a small strong person. John’s size made it virtually impossible. His best chances would have been in those first couple of hours before he had exhausted his strength.
Yep that’s definitely my brother in that photo. We are both doing great. Thanks for asking. Kory was at the John Jones rescue he just didn’t get a chance to get back to where John was prior to him dying. You could really only fit one rescuer back there at a time.
The paramedic was not experienced with cave exploration. He was the smallest paramedic they could find and got suckered into it as a result. He stayed remarkably calm despite how scary and uncomfortable it was for him.